welke muziek/films om een sub te testten/showen?

Started by ACQUA, November 5, 2007, 21:07:37

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ACQUA

Momenteel staat men sub te koop, nu heb ik enkele kopers die hem eens aan het werk willen zien en horen.  Nu was de vraag, zijn er goede stukjes muziek en films die ik kan laten afspelen?

ACQUA

Sk

Waarom laat je ze zelf geen muziek/films meenemen die ze goed kennen?
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ACQUA

Er zijn 3 van de 4 personen waar het 1e stappen zijn in HT en die dus nog compleet leek zijn in dit.  Ik kan ze wel stukken laten horen maar zij gaan het verschil niet kunnen zeggen of voelen tussen bass en bass.  Ik heb het hier ook nog moeilijk mee maarja.

R

Dirty diana van MJ is leuk bijvoorbeeld. Enkele cd's van madonna. Of wat zwaarder werk natuurlijk, keuze genoeg.

luistervinkje

Out of Time van David Gilmore op zijn laatste DVD  O0
Elton John   , One night only  , Rocket Man. O0
Chris Rea   , The road of Hell.

Dvd s natuurlijk.

Zo kan ik nog wel even doorgaan als het moet
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Interficior

U571, Finding Nemo "Ticking the Tank".

Voor het showen van een subwoofer is Roger Waters - Three Wishes een erg leuke, redelijk diep (niet super) en geeft een leuke extra dimensie aan de muziek.

Als je echt wilt showen, kun je hiphop nog wel goed gebruiken, daar zitten stukken van 30 Hz aan die echt hard erin zitten. Voorbeelden als 3-6 Mafia - Late Nite Tip en bijvoorbeeld 50 Cent - In Da Club. In Madonna zit ook wel enorm laag laag, zoals bij "Frozen". Ik weet niet of die Klipsch dat trekt eigenlijk, bij die drums.


Het ligt ook aan de muzieksmaak. In de muziek van Boards of Canada en Sven van Hees zitten ook meer subtiele bas-onder-bas-dingen, dus je hoort al een normale basloop maar dan komt er nog net even zo'n 'tikje' onder.

Eels - Flyswatter vind ik ook een mooie.

Er is heel veel muziek die een leuke bas heeft.
Er is veel muziek met een luide bas
Er is heel weinig muziek waar de bas echt laag gaat.

Het ligt er echt ook aan wat voor indruk je wil achterlaten met je subwoofer. Als die een beetje traag is en je wilt dat niet kenbaar maken dan kun je beter Jazz en hiphop draaien, want bij house en consorten valt het dan keihard door de mand.
Take it or lease it

Mrwhoopie

finding nemo,jurasic park en zeker niet vergeten Tokyo drift.

mariolino

Hier wat films met de tijden erbij, altijd handig voor demo's.  ;D 8) ;)


"3D Atom Bomb" Big booms, atomic style. Prepare yourself, and your sub.

"15 Megatons", Chap. 4 (0:50:01)


"Aliens" Not just another modern sci-fi horror classic, this one rocks from intro to final scene.

"THX Intro" *
"Express elevator to hell", Scene 9 (41:20) *
"Awakenings", Scene 15 (1:12:52)
"Marines we are leaving!", Scene 15 (1:19:45)* 
"Drop ship explodes", Scene 17 (1:24:49)*


"Alien v. Predator"  The end of a franchise, or rather, two.  Lots of great bass, just don't plan to get cozy with the protagonists, or even figure out who they are.

"Laser Beam Mining", Scene 5 (00:13:40) *
"Lift Off", Scene 27 (01:27:35) *


"Alien 4" Call it curse of the sequel(s) it has some cool bass, so we'll watch it anyway.

"Betty Flies In", Scene 5 (13:09)


"Antz" Another good family movie, though not perhaps for small children. Extremely loud bass above 30 Hz.

"Terror from Above", Scene 17 (51:48)


"Apollo 13" Moving story, with some surprisingly subtle, but revealing, bass where it counts.

"Lift off", Scene 13 (35:12)*
"Re-entry", Scene 53 (2:05:20)*


"Apocalypse Now" Making This Vietnam war movie, Francis Ford Copolla nearly went crazy...imagine what it'll do to your subwoofer!

"Chopper ride" Scene 2 (0:19:47)*
"ARC LIGHT" Scene 4 (0:26:02)*
"Grenade launch" Scene 12 (1:27:58)
"Atlantis Lost Empire" More Disney animation, this time with some killer bass.

"Leviathan Moves", Scene 5 (0:20:53)*


"Attack of the Clones" Follows in the deep, off the map bass of Phantom Menace.

"Ship explodes", Scene 3 (0:3:19)*


"Backdraft" One of the first DVDs out, with smokin' bass

"Dad", Scene 1 (4:30)
"Check that door", Scene 10 (1:19:05)


"Basketball Diaries" Thunder that should sound and feel real.

"Thunder", Scene 8 (37:53)


"Blade" Not one for the kiddies, but loaded with deep bass.

"Footstep", Scene 4 (7:15)*
"Pinned", Scene 4 (9:05)*
"Invitation?" Scene 17 (41:20)*
"Door blown" Scene 20 (50:05)*


"Blue Man Group" The Boys in Blue, with characteristically dynamic bass that has to be felt to be believed..

"PVC", (IV: 0:9:50)*


"Braveheart" Mel Gibson directs himself in this brutally realistic depiction of war and intrigue, and not a little bass!

"Knocking on the Door", Scene 12 (1:39:30)
"Cavalry Charge", Scene 11 (1:26:50)


"Broken Arrow" Another "military out of control" flick, but lot's of deep stuff.

"Underground explosion", Scene 13 (1:08:50)


"Butterfly Effect" Creepy "what if" story that twists and turns right to the end.

"Opening sequence", Scene 1 (0:01:05)*
"I'll come back...", Scene 11 (0:54:55)*


"Castaway" Proof that one actor can carry a movie, and that ultra low, ultra demanding bass is everywhere these days.

"Brace for impact!", Scene 8 (0:26:01)*
"Engine splash", Scene 8 (0:27:43)*


"Contact" SETI with a (bass) twist or two along the way.

"Bombing", Scene 28 (1:36:30)
"Space truckin", Scene 33 (1:55:56)
"The Core" Another "the world as we know it is about to end" movie... but one with unusually aggressive low frequency effects!

"Destruction of Rome", Scene 9 (0:49:26)*
"Golden Gate Bridge Breaks", Scene 14 (1:30.56)*
"Dark City" One of Roger Ebert's favorites; think he likes bass too?

"Let the tuning commence", Scene 8 (34:30)
"City makeover", Scene 15 (1:27:45)


"Das Boot" Arguably one of the best war pictures of all time with bass dipping under 20 Hz. Very loud, very intense.

"Depth charges", Scene 21 (59:30)
"Storm surfing", Scene 25 (1:15:15)
"Hitting bottom", Scene 17 (53:15, Side "B")
"The Day After Tomorrow" More end of days theme, that'll have you signing the Kyoto Accords as a private citizen.  Flash frozen movie that was better than expected.

"Freezing", Scene 12 (0:40:20)*
"Tidal wave", Scene 14 (0:49:05)*
"Tanker on the boulevard", Scene 16 (01:02:55)*


"Dawn of the Dead"  Remake of the original zombie cult-classic.  Some bass good enough to wake the dead, of course.

"Opening flame sequence", Scene 1 (0:00:40)*
"Explosion", Scene 18 (01:35:50)*
"Another explosion", Scene 19 (01:42:01)*


"Detroit Rock City" More proof that stunning digital bass tracks can show up where you least expect them.

"Oh Chungo...." Scene 12 (53:50)
"Fahrenheit 9-11" Politically incorrect, and unabashedly biased documentary about the "war on terrorism".  Surprising bass passages.

"Fireworks", Scene 1 (0:00:30)*
"Credits", Scene 4 (0:13:46)*
"Bombing begins", Scene 16 (01:09:30)*
"Fight Club" Dark, brutal, shocking. And that's just the bass. Strong below 10Hz. Take your gloves off.  Wimpy subs don't even try this.

"THX Intro" *
"Mid-air collision" Chapter 8 (0:21:39)*
"Ass-whippin" Chapter 9 (0:21:59)
"Calling Marla" Chapter 10 (0:27:29)*
"Fridge explosion" Chapter 10 (0:27:35)*
"Car wreck" Chapter 27 (1:40:28)*
"My eyes are open" Chapter 35 (2:13:00)
"Final explosions" Chapter 36 (2:15:31)*


"Final Destination 2" Horror thriller that will have you putting your seatbelt on, always.

"Logs hit highway", Scene 2 (0:10:09)*
"Finding Nemo" The usual stunning Disney animation, with a nice story for the entire family.  If you have an SVS and you are playing at theater levels, get ready for some SERIOUS bass.

"Darla taps the tank", Scene 25 (1:18:14)*


"Godzilla" That's right, the big lizard flick does more than just tear up NYC, it brings you some very good deep bass.  Even the menu for this one is something of a bass reference!

Menu, building crumbling*
"Godzilla enters harbor" Chapter 8 (0:25:23)*
"Godzilla emerges from subway" Chapter 15 (1:20:30)*
"The Haunting" Dark, spooky, bassy:

Menu (Intro)
"Coming mother!" Scene 10 (38:08)
"The cold" Scene 10 (39:18)


"Heat" The "spare no one" heist movie.  Lock and load!

"Gun blasts in car" Chapter 32 (1:48:20)*


"The Hulk" BTE (Better Than Expected) remake of the old comic book and TV show.  Some dynamic bass, and plenty of mayhem ... all combined with a love story!

"Hulk jumps on a plane", Scene 25 (1:47:43)*
"Hulk pounds the pavement", Scene 26 (1:51:16)*


"Ice Age" BTE (Better Than Expected) animation flick which, like The Iron Giant  below, is remarkable perhaps because it's not from Disney!

"Squirrel races from a glacier", Scene 1 (0:02:33)*


"The Incredibles" Typical Pixar Studios animation perfection.  Adults, kids, anyone can watch this DVD and have a great time.  Some well done, heart-stopping bass.  Recording levels uneven during previews and movie intro.  Sound is right on feature however.

"Building comes down", Scene 6 (0:22:59)*
"Syndrome", Scene 13 (0:52:01)*
"Ouch", Scene 15 (0:58:15)*
"Sticky balled", Scene 16 (01:02:30)*


"Independence Day" Dark comedy thriller with the feel-good ending, and most importantly, strong bass below 20Hz.:
"Intro spaceship flyover" Scene 1 (0:2:12)
"Time's Up" Scene 24 (0:51:55)
"Got Airbags?" Scene 31 (1:05:15)


"The Iron Giant" Great family animation with SERIOUS bass, including very strong peaks below 25 Hz. Jump to:

"The Giant Sits Down" Scene 8 (0:20:01)
"Robot Landing" (Train Impact) Scene 10 (25:41)
"Green Boom" Scene 27 (1:11:40)


"Jumanji" A  fresh thrill-a-minute movie you can watch with the family (though not the toddlers!).  One of the first state of the art DVD's with bass that still embarrasses some newer fare.
"Big Cat" Scene 9 (0:29:01)
"Stampede" Scene 14 (0:59:16)


"Jurassic Park III" After the the second "JP" expectations were low for the third in the series.  Better than the second, by far, but still short of the original.  Splendid bass however.

"T-Rex Lunch", Scene 6 (0:26:30)*
"Dueling dinosaurs", Scene 6 (0:26:49)*


"K19" If you needed another reason not to join the defunct USSR Navy, here you go!  Ensure all audience members can handle the intense action plus graphical depictions of radiation burns.

"In case I die", Scene 4 (0:36:11)*


"Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings" Those not familiar with the story will have to pay attention very closely... or don't bother ...and just bask in state of the art sound and some of the deepest bass yet put on DVD.

"Ring drops", Scene 1 (0:03:49)*
"Sauron Explodes", Scene 1 (0:04:04)*
"Skeleton falls into well", Scene 8 (0:27:39)*


"Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" A rare thing, a sequel that's done at least as well as its predecessor.  With stunning siege and battle scenes, and naturally, bass worthy of the SVS "Bassy Scenes" Hall of Fame.

"Gandalf falls", Scene 1 (0:02:48)*
"Black riders", Scene 14 (0:49:42)*
"Gandalf slays Balrog", Scene 15 (0:53:54)*
"Oliphants charge", Scene 30 (1:44:52)*


"Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" The epic finale of the famed Lord of the Rings trilogy.  If your sub can handle this DVD it really is "precious".

"Green light" Chapter 11 (0:41:40)*
"Undead King" Chapter 27 (01:27:22)*
"Shelob" Chapter 33 (01:51:40)*
"Olephant charge, again" Chapter 42 (2:12:48)*
"Mount Doom" Chapter 53 (2:40:50)*


"Lost In Space" Yes, an oft times cheesy feature film remake... of the oft times cheesy "classic" TV Sci-Fi show.  Forget the CGI "monkey" and watch for this bass!:

Menu (Intro)
"Fighter Launch" Scene 1 (0:1:10)*
"Showtime" Scene 1 (0:02:25)*
"Exiting Hyperspace" Scene 11 (0:36:15)*


"Mask of Zorro" The last of the opening music is decaying in mid chart. The the opening logo then turns to fire...and the bottom of the chart shows a great 25hz signal as the fire burns:

Opening Logo Scene 1 (0:0:50)
"Explosion" Scene 27 (2:04:53


"The Matrix" Modern, violent, science fiction thriller with plenty of shoot-'em-up bass blasts. Here's some subtle and not so subtle.

"Where we are grown" Scene 12 (0:42:55)
"Landing in fight", Scene 15 (50:51)
"Chopper explosion" Scene 31 (1:51:11)


"The Matrix Reloaded" Baffling yet still intriguing story of future.. real, cyber, and quasi-religious sci-fi all mixed up.  Any surprise there's some intense bass in there?

"Door to the source", Scene 26 (1:38:23)*
"It's the hammer", Scene 34 (2:05:15)*


"Minority Report" Tom Cruise carries this future sci-fi thriller and uses loads of believable technology to do it.  Worth the rental even if only for the stellar "factory scene".

"Pulse gun in the factory", Scene 9 (0:52:29)*


"Monsters Inc." Masterful PIXAR animation.  Great story for kids or adults and one of the new reference DVD's on audio too.

"Ted walks to work", Scene 5 (0:09:01)*
"Sock detonation", Scene 12 (0:18:33)*
"City block decon", Scene 12 (0:28:23)*
"Boo laughs", Scene 13 (0:30:39)*


"Predator" The Arnold thriller with an unbeatable plot twist (and the Governor of Minnesota like you've never seen him).

"Jesse's Gun", Scene 12 (47:43)


"Resident Evil"   Something of a cult classic, end of the world, seriously bad germ flick.  If you didn't get enough of Milla Jovovich from The Fifth Element, well, here you go.

"T-bone car wreck", Scene 1 (00:05:21) *
"Rocket Launcher", Scene 10 (00:38:05) *
"Five Kilotons", Scene 24 (01:17:37) *


"Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" The epic finale of the famed Lord of the Rings trilogy.  If your sub can handle this DVD it really is "precious"
"Green light" Chapter 11 (0:41:40)*
"Undead King" Chapter 27 (01:27:22)*
"Shelob" Chapter 33 (01:51:40)*
"Olephant charge" Chapter 42 (2:12:48)*
"Mount Doom" Chapter 53 (2:40:50)*


"Ronin" Still more plot twists, and some of the wildest car chases put on film. You can see the the graph "anvil" in the 30-45hz range about halfway down the chart. This indicates the signal was so loud at that moment that it went off the scale. Maybe not the lowest bass around, but this has some of the loudest 30-50hz bass on any DVD.
"RPG Launch", Scene 13 (44:31)
 

"Soldier" OK, so it's not on the AFI "Top 100", but it'll make your subwoofer stand up and salute!

"Dumping The Trash", Chap 6, (0:19:25)
"Windstorm" Chap 6 (0:19:25)
"Planet Killer" Chap 28 / 1:29:54


"Spy Game" And easily overlooked thriller with action set in China.  Some great work by Robert Redford and Brad Pitt.  That there would be some demanding audio might be expected.

"Chopper crash", Scene 4 (0:25:54)*
"Explosion", Scene 17 (1:33.33)*


"Stargate" A great Sci-Fi DVD, with Kurt Russel as you've seen him many times. Bad to the bone.

"Space Traveling", Scene 11 (30:10)


"Super Speedway" Hanging out with Mario. Bass at the track you can FEEL.

"Bump At Speed", Scene 10 (0:16:56)
"F1 Closeup", Scene 7 (0:12:45)
"Title: Burnin", Title


"Thirteenth Warrior" Didn't get enough "Antonio"? In the first scene, the top section is the opening...as camera rolls in synch with lighting. You can see most of the bass slopes off....and then the thunder clap hits hard about 8 seconds later (the bottom surge)---the thunder has monster signal at 30hz:

"Opening Storm" Scene 1 (0:0:30)
"Ambushed" Scene 7 (0:38:27)


"Terminator 2" Arnold couldn't be a bad buy two times in a row! He did bring some bad bass with him to this killer sequel however.

"DVD Intro"
"First Footstep" Chap 2 (0:01:40)


"Titan AE" Fantastic science fiction animation with unreal bass, don't rent this one, buy it!

"Ship flyby" Chap 10 (0:36:10)*
"Ship engine roar" Chap 10 (0:36:44)*
"Drej" Chap 10 (39:50)
"Ice Field Part 1" Chap 16 (103:45)*
"Ice Field Part 2" Chap 16 (1:04:55)


"Titanic" You love it...or you hate it. Regardless of which side of the ship you sit, this flick does some serious rumbling for you:

"THX Intro"
"We can't leave him" Scene 22 (2:21:50)


"Toy Story 2" A modern animation classic, and one of the few sequels ever to rival the original movie. More deep bass than we've seen in a while. Serious stuff well below 20Hz!   "Monsters Inc." also has a "trailer" prior to Toy Story's start, don't miss it!:

"Door knock"  (Monsters Inc. trailer)*
"Dog growling"  (Monsters Inc. trailer)*
Opening logo Chap. 1 (0:00:55)*
"Aliens explode" Chap. 2 (0:02:30)*
"Game over" Chap. 2 (0:04:21)*


"The Phantom Menace" OK, maybe you hate "Jar Jar Binks" too, but this disk is the KING of killer bass. If you thought you might only want one SVS, you might reconsider after spinning this one. Bass so big it got its own web page! TPM --- Advanced Bass Analysis. Lesser subs don't even try to reproduce most of the bass in this movie.  Some highlights:
"THX Intro" *
"Ambush" Chapter 3 (0:05:12)*
"Pod race tunnel exit" Chapter 20 (1:01:40)*


"U-571" Hollywood's answer to "Das Boot". More underwater explosions that any normal sub(woofer) should be allowed to reproduce.

Alarm! Chap. 8 0:40:15
"Torpedo hit" Chap 9 (0:47:48)*
"They all missed" Chap 9 (0:55:55)*
"Plane flyover" Chap 12 (1:06:28)*
"Depth Charge" Chap 15 (1:17:34)*


"Unbreakable" Another Bruce Willis, "what-the-heck-is-going-on-in-THIS-movie?"  Sixth Sense-like thriller.  Mixed in is the sort of truly disturbing bass that almost by itself creates foreboding tension you have to experience to understand.

"Train ride" Chap 1 (0:08:35)*
"Walk in the rain" Chap 23 (1:22:55)*


"Waterworld" A modern curiosity. One of a handful of action DVDs without a dedicated LFE track. A feature sadly missing on this shoot'em up, Kevin Costner flick:

"Later cousins" Scene 4 (38:23)
"Flare dropped" Scene 12 (1:51:30)
"Ship sinking" Scene 13 (1:56:45)

DVDGuy

Quote from: mariolino on November  6, 2007, 04:39:28
Hier wat films met de tijden erbij, altijd handig voor demo's.  ;D 8) ;)


"3D Atom Bomb" Big booms, atomic style. Prepare yourself, and your sub.

"15 Megatons", Chap. 4 (0:50:01)


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"Later cousins" Scene 4 (38:23)
"Flare dropped" Scene 12 (1:51:30)
"Ship sinking" Scene 13 (1:56:45)


Jij bent compleet in je antwoord zeg ;)
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luistervinkje

Quote from: mariolino on November  6, 2007, 04:39:28
Hier wat films met de tijden erbij, altijd handig voor demo's.  ;D 8) ;)


"3D Atom Bomb" Big booms, atomic style. Prepare yourself, and your sub.

"15 Megatons", Chap. 4 (0:50:01)




Nou zeg ::) ::) ::) ::) ::), kom ik aan met mijn voorbeeldjes :-X


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daxie


DVDGuy

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joostpolletje

Dat is inderdaad de SVS lijst.. Zitten echt topppertjes in!

Darla taps the tank", Scene 25 (1:18:14)* Geweldig  :D
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haythijs

Als een koper na deze lijst niet meer weet of een sub wel voldoet aan zijn of haar smaak ;)
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mariolino

Ik vind deze lijst zelf wel handig en uitgebreid, ze mogen hem voor mijn part regelmatig updaten.  :D ;)

Stadium III

Blade II en dan chaper 10 volgens mij The house of pain !
5.2.4 Marantz Klipsch setup

Rob Eric Blank

Even een oud topic uitdiepen....

Zijn er DVD's/BD's waar een groot aantal van dergelijke scenes aaneen zijn geregen, dat maakt de demo een stuk sneller en eenvoudiger.

mscofield

Quote from: Rob Eric Blank on April  1, 2011, 11:43:39
Even een oud topic uitdiepen....

Zijn er DVD's/BD's waar een groot aantal van dergelijke scenes aaneen zijn geregen, dat maakt de demo een stuk sneller en eenvoudiger.
Op de DTS demo discs staan allemaal korte fragmenten film en muziek. Dat is leuk voor surround, maar zeker ook voor de subwoofer!
Dit is de laatste, deel 15: http://www.demo-world.eu/demo-dvds/dts-blu-ray-demonstration-disc-15.php
Ik vind hem in ieder geval erg vet!

luistervinkje

Chris Rea:
The Road to Hell&Back  nr 15

Elton John
Rocket Man  nr 11

The StratPack live
Nr 25???  David Gimour 

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Rob Eric Blank

Quote from: mscofield on April  1, 2011, 22:55:26
Op de DTS demo discs staan allemaal korte fragmenten film en muziek. Dat is leuk voor surround, maar zeker ook voor de subwoofer!
Dit is de laatste, deel 15: http://www.demo-world.eu/demo-dvds/dts-blu-ray-demonstration-disc-15.php
Ik vind hem in ieder geval erg vet!
Thanx voor de tip!

vJac

Quote from: mscofield on April  1, 2011, 22:55:26
Op de DTS demo discs staan allemaal korte fragmenten film en muziek. Dat is leuk voor surround, maar zeker ook voor de subwoofer!
Dit is de laatste, deel 15: http://www.demo-world.eu/demo-dvds/dts-blu-ray-demonstration-disc-15.php
Ik vind hem in ieder geval erg vet!

Waar kun je deze ergens halen?  ???
Let op! Beginner! Kans op domme vragen!

daxie


snowbo

Quote from: vJac on April  5, 2011, 08:43:22
Waar kun je deze ergens halen?  ???
Zocht hem zelf ook, gewoon ff downloaden van nieuwsgroepen :-X
klikkie doen ;)
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