NEEO - The Thinking Remote

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Valkyrie

NEEO - The Thinking Remote

Website: https://neeo.com/

Deze afstandsbediening verdient zijn eigen topic! 8)
De NEEO is een geavanceerde afstandsbediening voor het aansturen van domotica en diverse apparaten. Het bestaat uit een afstandbediening (The Remote) en een ontvanger (The Brain).



The Brain

  • De NEEO Brain stuurt de commando's naar de verschillende apparaten en gadgets
  • De NEEO Brain beschikt over een database van meer dan 30.000 apparaten
  • De NEEO Brain is compatibel met alle belangrijke AV-producten die in de afgelopen 10 jaar, welke nog verder wordt uitgebreid
  • De NEEO Brain werkt met zowel de NEEO afstandsbediening als met de NEEO app voor de telefoon
  • De NEEO Brain heeft antennes voor Bluetooth 4.0, Bluetooth BLE (low energy), Wi-Fi, 6LowPAN, ZigBee, Thread en Z-Wave protocols
  • De NEEO Brain heeft 360° infraroodbereik
  • De NEEO Brain ondersteund TV, Sonos®, Apple® TV, Roku®, and Philips® Hue
  • De NEEO Brain ondersteund eigen apparaten door middel van de "Learning Mode"




The Remote

  • De NEEO afstandsbediening heeft een 291 ppi-display
  • De NEEO afstandsbediening heeft enkele hard-buttons voor snelle toegang
  • De NEEO afstandsbediening herkent de hand van de gebruiker, waarmee u uw eigen profiel krijgt met je playlists, films en favorieten
  • De herkenning van de hand betekent ook dat u ouderlijk toezicht kunt instellen of een gast profiel kunt aanmaken
  • De NEEO afstandsbediening heeft een oplaadbare zuinige accu die maanden meegaat na
  • De NEEO afstandsbediening heeft een SOS alarm waarmee u de remote makkelijk terug kan vinden als u deze kwijt bent



Websites
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/
http://www.neeo.com/

Htforum backers
Hier een overzicht van Htforum-leden die inmiddels een NEEO besteld hebben:

  • Berend van Til
  • rovinggecko
  • papaleo
  • Valkyrie
  • The Guardian
  • Bama
  • TornadoGo
  • DVDGuy
  • boefje
  • Bart_M
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Valkyrie

#1
Update #1
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Less than half an hour after our launch and we are already at $8391!

Thank you so much to all of you who have supported us so far - we're so excited to bring NEEO to all of you. This is just the beginning, but we wanted to take a minute to thank you all for getting onboard so early. Your feedback and comments are very important to us and we'd love to know your thoughts on NEEO.

Thanks again and welcome to the NEEO family!

The NEEO Team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1106269

Update #2
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Dear Kickstarter community!

We are truly overwhelmed by your response to NEEO. We achieved our goal less than 3 hours with 185 backers. Be sure that we are working hard everyday to get NEEO to you. Please tell your friends about the NEEO revolution.

the NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1106286

Update #3
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Dear Kickstarter community!

First of all we want to say a huge thank you to our NEEO family. We are so astounded by your support and we wouldn't be where we are without you. NEEO has been our labor of love for the past year, and we are ecstatic that you love it as much as we do. We have received a lot of feedback and requests for new pledge levels and we are very happy to announce that we are introducing two new pledge levels!

Limited Black Cat Editions

Back by popular demand, we are releasing 300 additional Limited Black Cat devices. These devices have a beautiful black anodized aluminum finish and are for Kickstarter backers only. If you missed the chance to get the Limited Black Cat the first time round, but had your heart set on it, then this is for you.

Double the fun with NEEO

You've been asking for TWO NEEO brains and TWO NEEO remotes and this is exactly what we're going to bring you. For $419, you will receive two NEEO combo packs by May 2015.

Thank you again for all your support so far and please continue to send us your thoughts and comments!

The NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1107221

Update #4
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Dear Kickstarter community!

What an amazing two weeks, your support for the NEEO campaign has been overwhelming! Thank you so very much.

We also want to thank you for all your feedback and comments, including your suggestions for product improvements. We've taken these suggestions on board and have used them to help us create two stretch goals, which we are very happy to announce today!

Become the architect with the NEEO API $1 million stretch goal
Lots of developers and makers have spoken about the need for an API and we completely agree! If we exceed $1 million, we will provide you with a well documented API offering the following features in the first version:
- A public REST API that lets you control each and every device in your NEEO setup from other devices or systems on your local network that make HTTP requests. All of the API features will be nicely documented and published on the web for everyone to read and start implementing
- Custom HTTP commands that let you control any device with an HTTP interface on your local network. These commands can then be used as part of an action (or rule) or directly in the UI. You will be able to import, export and share them with others.

We're already looking forward to all the insane setups and integrations you come up with!

NEEO's very own IFTTT channel $1.2 million stretch goal
IFTTT makes perfect sense for NEEO: it's super easy and anyone can use it. We already provide powerful rules but integrating with IFTTT will allow you to discover much more automation possibilities. Start a song and change the color of your lightbulbs if you receive a Facebook message from someone special. Or integrate with home automation products already present on IFTTT such as WeMo, Wink, Honeywell, NEST, netatmo and others.

If we are lucky enough to pass the $1.2 million mark, we will provide our very own NEEO channel on IFTTT to which we will add the most requested features from the community.

We are also announcing new pledge levels!

We know that you're big fans of the NEEO Black Cat editions so we want to give you another chance to get your hands on the Kickstarter special:
-   BLACK CAT: THE DEJA-VU
    One brain and one remote, beautifully finished black anodized aluminum
-   BLACK CAT TWIN COMBO
    Two black brains and two black remotes, because cats need company :-)

Thanks again for your support, and don't forget, we're always here for you to answer your questions and listen to your suggestions.

You guys are awesome!

The NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1112116

Update #5
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Dear Kickstarter Community,

Wow! we never imagined anything close to $1M in pledges when we were preparing for Kickstarter. You have made this possible and we thank you so very much. The NEEO family grew by 4000 over the last few weeks, simply incredible!

Unlocking the API stretch goal

Thanks to you, we will definitely be providing you with a well documented API, offering the following features in the first version:
- A public REST API that lets you control each and every device in your NEEO setup from other devices or systems on your local network that make HTTP requests. All of the API features will be nicely documented and published on the web for everyone to read and start implementing
- Custom HTTP commands that let you control any device with an HTTP interface on your local network. These commands can then be used as part of an action (or rule) or directly in the UI. You will be able to import, export and share them with others.

The cat is out the bag!

We've been working really hard here at NEEO HQ to finalize the prototyping, and we wanted to share some never seen before images of the Black Cat prototype. We are currently assembling the prototypes by hand and it's a joy to finally have the remote with it's beautiful hard anodized black finish. We're so nervous, we are almost jumping up and down because we can't wait to ship these pieces of art as soon as possible. :-)

Scenarios

We've prepared a short video showing scenarios in action. Head over to our kickstarter story page and scroll down to find the latest video. Visit the kickstarter story page.

We've still got over a week to go and don't forget we have another stretch goal to work towards. Please keep sending us your comments and feedback, as well as telling your family and friends about NEEO.

Thanks again for your great support!

The NEEO team
Bron:

Update #6
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Hi Kickstarter friends,

There's only one week left of our campaign and we're so excited to see what's in store!

This week more than 4,000 new backers have joined the NEEO team and we shot past the $1 million mark. And the first stretch goal is history. We are ever so close to the second stretch goal. Thanks for helping us hit the great milestones.

But enough of the introductions, this is a blast:

NEEO wins an iF Design Award

We are so happy to tell you first, before anyone else, that NEEO has been selected for an iF Design Award! The jury selected our device to be amongst the top industrial designs in the consumer electronics category. We are extremely proud to have won such a prestigious award, and that it puts us next to all the great industrial designers that were our role models in the past, such as Jony Ive who is a regular at the iF Awards for his stunning industrial designs.

Remote UI Screens

We've put together a small selection of screens that you will encounter using the remote. Some of them you might have already seen if you watched our demo that we posted on Tuesday. These screens will be automatically generated based on your setup and displayed on the gorgeous hi-dpi IPS screen of the remote.

Thank you again for all your support. We are so close to achieving our second stretch goal, IFTTT integration. Please spread the word!

We wish you all the best,

The NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1126803

Update #7
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Hey backers!

We did it, another stretch goal down. NEEO will get its very own IFTTT channel just as you asked for.

You will now be able to use all the 164 existing channels over at IFTTT and do anything you want with NEEO. So for example, you can now use your infrared and Z-Wave devices to communicate with services like Twitter!

As we begin adding services to our IFTTT channel, we want your feedback. Keep an eye out for an update inviting you to join our uservoice page where you can post all your ideas for our IFTTT channel - and of course anything else you'd like to suggest for NEEO. :-)

Thanks again for all your support, it means so much to us.

The NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1128015

Update #8
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Dear backers,

There is now less than a day to go in our kickstarter campaign and we would like to use this opportunity to once again thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your great support. We never ever expected a result like this, we're still happily baffled and looking forward to the future more than ever!
Surprise, surprise!
To thank you for your continued support over the past few weeks, we would like to announce the following integrations to our great community:
• Kodi (formerly XBMC) and PLEX using their native APIs. Many of you had asked for it and we already put it on the roadmap. We are now making this a top priority!
• Open source solution for device integration. We will provide source code on Github to allow the creators amongst you to build their own 2-way device integrations using HTTP/REST APIs.

Thanks again for your support, you guys rock - really hard!

The NEEO team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1132710

Update #9
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Hi backers,

This is the end of the campaign but just the beginning of something even more exciting.

Four weeks, 6081 backers and $1.55m later, we went from "NEEO, what's that?" to the most funded smart home product on Kickstarter! This is unbelievable, and it's all thanks to you. This was an incredible ride for us here at NEEO and we're so happy. We received amazing feedback from all over the world and we are now working hard to ship the best smart home automation system the world has ever seen.

You helped us put NEEO on the map. And trust us, we're here to stay.

What's next?
Our focus is now entirely on ramping up the production and getting everything ready for you. Stay tuned for more news over the coming weeks.

Uservoice is online
As promised, we have created a place for our NEEO family to share ideas and feature requests. Head over to my.neeo.com, write them down and vote for your favorite ones!

Let's keep in touch
We will send out updates to our backers via Kickstarter whenever we have news to share. In the meantime, you can follow us on our official Twitter and Facebook page:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/NEEO

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NEEOinc

Again, from all of us at NEEO to you beautiful people around the globe, a huge THANK YOU!

The NEEO Team
Bron: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1133679
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boefje

Ik heb me voor een black cat ingeschreven. De white rabbit was helaas niet meer beschikbaar toen ik de kickstarter site ontdekte.  >:( Ik heb er een uurtje over nagedacht en toen heb ik de gok maar genomen. Ik heb wat Z-wave spul en een Harmony Ultimate One staan. Beide systemen doen het maar het is niet om naar huis te schrijven en natuurlijk zijn beide niet te integreren zonder nerd factor 50. Ik was al naar geavanceerdere opties zoals RTI en Control4 aan het kijken maar daar werd ik niet vrolijk van qua prijzen, flexibiliteit en opties. (Z-Wave gaat niet echt met die dingen).

Als de NEEO de beloftes kan waarmaken dan hebben ze echt een winner in de handen en kan Logitech haar afstandsbediening divisie sluiten! IR + losse blaster, bluetooth, Wifi, custom HTTP calls, Z-Wave, Zigbee, IFTTT en wellicht een X10 ooit in de toekomst? Er blijft weinig over voor op de wenslijst.

Maar goed eerst zien dan pas echt geloven. Maar een mens mag hopen  :P
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DVDGuy

#3
Zojuist bericht gekregen dat ik er samen met nog 6.079 anderen voor heb gezorgd dat het project voldoende financiën bij elkaar heeft gekregen en dat mijn NEEO Combo Deal in mei 2015 geleverd zal worden  :clapping: :headbanging:

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CoSo

kan je zelf iconen toevoegen en zenders?

Valkyrie

Quote from: CoSo on February 12, 2015, 19:46:48
kan je zelf iconen toevoegen en zenders?

Dat wordt waarschijnlijk wel mogelijk. :) Op de website http://my.neeo.com/ is een soort en met enquête gestart met de mogelijkheid om eigen ideeën te sharen. Je kunt hier ook reeds ingediende ideeën steunen door te voten.
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Valkyrie

#6
Zojuist heb ik ook het idee gegeven om een web interface te maken.  :P Graag even stemmen als je het hiermee eens bent. ;)

Stem hier --> http://my.neeo.com/forums/281574-ideas/suggestions/7087670-web-interface

Het idee is inmiddels samengevoegd met "Remote Access"
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Bart_M


konijntje

Helaas net te laat. Dan wachten op de productie :)

boefje

Quote from: konijntje on February 13, 2015, 13:53:25
Helaas net te laat. Dan wachten op de productie :)

Als je ECHT haast hebt dan kan je hem pre orderen op de website http://neeo.com/   
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konijntje

Quote from: boefje on February 13, 2015, 14:55:26
Als je ECHT haast hebt dan kan je hem pre orderen op de website http://neeo.com/

Geen haast... maar scheelde 100 dollar via kickstarter. Nu wacht ik wel tot hij in productie is + reviews ;-)

papaleo

Hee Top dat je een topic heb aangemaakt 👍
Heb ook gelijk ff getstemd...
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boefje

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Valkyrie

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Versterking: Arcam AV860 | Arcam P1000 | Arcam P429 Bronnen: Panasonic UB9004 | Lumin D2 | Apple TV 4K
Speakers: KEF Reference 203 | KEF Reference 204c | KEF Reference 201 | KEF KHT2001.3 Subwoofer: Velodyne DD-15
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papaleo

En wederom een goed idee uit Holland... :clapping:
3 stemmen voor 'boefje'
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papaleo

Kreeg zojuist deze mail..  :pompom:

#10 Manufacturing has started!

Dear Kickstarter backers, Here is the latest news from the ultra busy NEEO office:
Manufacturing
We are super happy to announce that the manufacturing process is going really well. Due to your overwhelming support, we will be delivering a huge number of NEEOs. We had to re-negotiate and even find some new suppliers to handle the volume. We had tough negotiations which is normal and we are now aligned. You guys made something incredible possible.

Als alles volgens plan gaat willen ze in Mei'15 gaan uitleveren.
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Erik1977

Gaaf ding. Ik ben benieuwd naar de gebruikservaringen!
En naar de Nederlandse prijs... de euro is behoorlijk door het putje en er zullen wel wat invoerrechten bijkomen dus misschien dat een combi wel 450 euro gaat kosten.  :hmmm:

The Guardian

Ik meen gelezen te hebben dat voor Europese kopers de Neeo vanuit Europa zou worden verzonden, zodat geen invoerrechten verschuldigd zouden zijn.

Erik1977

Dat zou inderdaad een goede 100 euro kunnen schelen.
In het begin zullen er ook nog wel wat acties komen om het product wat naamsbekendheid te geven dus mochten de ervaringen positief zijn kan je er waarschijnlijk nog wel redelijk goedkoop aankomen in het begin.

DVDGuy

#19
Ik had begrepen dat de verzending vanuit Zwitserland zou plaats vinden.
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Erik1977

Er is nog weinig over te vinden op het net iig.

rovinggecko

Kan het niet terugvinden, maar er staat mij ook iets bij over europese verzending, volgens mij toen op de kickstarter order pagina.
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papaleo

#22
Kreeg vandaag 'nieuws' over de Neeo...,er was (goed) leuk nieuws en er was wat minder leuk nieuws;

:-\
'the estimated shipping in May will have to be delayed. We will of course keep you closely updated on our progress'

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227115988/neeo-the-thinking-remote/posts/1221344?ref=backer_project_update
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rovinggecko

Ja, mooi verpakt, maar gewoon slecht nieuws :). Zelfs geen nieuwe datum kunnen ontdekken, da's meestal ook geen goed nieuws, want dan is er grote kans dat ze het zelf ook niet zeker weten....

Wel de juiste approach, dat wel. Oh well, vorige kickstarter inschrijving deed er meer dan een jaar langer over. Deze gaat ook vast afkomen.
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papaleo

Quote from: rovinggecko on May  5, 2015, 18:46:51
Ja, mooi verpakt, maar gewoon slecht nieuws :). Zelfs geen nieuwe datum kunnen ontdekken, da's meestal ook geen goed nieuws, want dan is er grote kans dat ze het zelf ook niet zeker weten....

Wel de juiste approach, dat wel. Oh well, vorige kickstarter inschrijving deed er meer dan een jaar langer over. Deze gaat ook vast afkomen.

Ik ben er ook 'bang' voor...
Och het is niet anders...jammer,maar ik zit met mijn huidige Pronto niet op een schopstoel  ;)
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